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Igor-
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: August 8, 2012, 23:34
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10 millions a year?? - Try this for 10 millions in 2 weeks!!:

Yes but where is the fun? The way I do it allows me to make discoveries, find treasures, fight pirates and enemy ships while making money.

sizintsev
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: August 10, 2012, 22:52
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It is possible, for example to light a plot only to opening villages, map of the world and latent treasures, can be and something interesting will turn up.

Wu Di
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: September 29, 2012, 18:29
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Just to add to this I think the best very early game trade in Joao's scenario should be to sell the aqua tiara after saying no once, remodel ship to max cargo then buy 100 lots of olives and sail down to Madeira to exchange for sugar.

After getting to 5 ingots or so probably the art - carpet route becomes more lucrative and
later on the gold-silver routes. Not sure if anyone tried to analyse at what stage exactly it becomes more profitable.

Well I am obsessed with 'the perfect start' and often restart the game just to perfect the start...

chaoyun2k
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: September 29, 2012, 19:23
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I do the same with the tiara and the rapier, but I buy the rock salt after remodeling. Then before leaving I deposit everything else in the bank for the interest. Then I sail for Athens where rock salt sells higher (it also sells higher in Palma, Syracuse, Candia if you need to unload some for some reason). I get the money out of the bank, sell the rock salt and buy the art. Guess what happens then! 😀

Any information that I provide is based on the SNES version unless otherwise specified. I have thousands of hours into New Horizons and I have played it since it was released in the US on the SNES.

Wu Di
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: September 29, 2012, 21:55
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ahh that's an elegant solution. Just need to try that out myself. Just not sure with the capital from 1 load of salt sale if it's effecient to start trading art/carpet then...

Also after playing Joao and Ali just kinda hate not being able to negotiate and especially Catalina not being able to learn cartography till late and being ripped off at the merchants just isn't so appealing...

chaoyun2k
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: September 30, 2012, 08:07
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Yeah, Catalina is pretty busy at the start of the game. With her I try to get a few cheap mates recruited so I can capture ships when the battles start. If I'm not prepared for battle I make sure I leave a port just after 8pm and I can usually make it to the next port before being confronted. Once the event I mentioned before is done, where you are saved by fire, the game settles down...unless you choose to continue the fast pace.

Anyway, my point was that I capture and sell ships to build enough for some good trade capital. Before building too much capital I usually visit Seville and try to get caught entering the castle. They take 80% of my money and wipe out the anger from Spain. If I don't mind the minor twist at the end of the game, I will defect to Spain. If I want to avoid that minor twist then I just wipe out the anger and "defect" to one of the others. I try to get an easy quest from the ruler of the country that I defect to and when I return to report my success I ask for the Letter of Marque.

At that point I begin trading, but you have to be careful because she will likely have enough fame for the first 3 or 4 ranks so the ruler will want to give her more quests and will often give her a pirating quest (attack pirates or attack another country's fleet). The pirating quests will likely raise her fame another rank or two, and her game can be over before you know it.

I try to keep my fame under 4,000 until I have done the trading, arming, building fleets, increasing levels, and recruiting mates. Anyway, I never have a problem obtaining capital in her game.

lol, The main reason I began this post was to note that any bookkeeper with the bookkeeper skill and assigned to be the fleet's bookkeeper will operate as if they have the negotiation skill (which is only beneficial in the market). While it makes it a little easier in the shipyard, you can always get the best price from there by saying no and calculating the main character's price yourself. Catalina actually gets the biggest discount at the shipyard of ALL main characters. Her discount is 19%, so once you have sold product to reduce the overall market rate all you need to do is multiply the amount the guy at the shipyard asks for by 0.81 and that is the lowest possible price she can get (Joao and Ali don't have an advantage in the shipyard).

Any information that I provide is based on the SNES version unless otherwise specified. I have thousands of hours into New Horizons and I have played it since it was released in the US on the SNES.

Wu Di
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: September 30, 2012, 23:58
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Thx for the detailed explanation. So many hidden layers of complexity in the simple defection command I see...

Ya I read somewhere about the Shipyard charm discount calculation. I always knew it was a fixed percentage but the Charm thing just clarified matters.

I think the problem with Catalina is never the capital cos that's easy enough to obtain. The challenge is to also be a great trader and adventurer as well as a pirate for her, and for world domination ultimately.

Not having Cartography skills means she can only sail in the Mediterranean while waiting for knowledge to increase if she wants to have any hope of obtaining max adventure fame... Anyway I guess that's never meant to be an objective in her game so I am just being unreasonable: p

chaoyun2k
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: October 2, 2012, 15:18
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Yeah, I like to try to get Cartography for her too...but as you say it isn't meant to be an objective. I tend to try to get 50,000 fame in all three types for each character and you almost have to get Cartography to do that. Otto is another that isn't easy to do that way.

Interestingly, those two can run through their story in less than a year...EASILY.

Any information that I provide is based on the SNES version unless otherwise specified. I have thousands of hours into New Horizons and I have played it since it was released in the US on the SNES.

OldBob
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: October 2, 2012, 22:14
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For Joao, I start with the usual at the Round Earth Society with Enrico and donations ( other posts have explored this topic very well ). Stop in at the Shop and Shipyard. After the 10pm visit, I like to gamble to earn enough to buy the Xebec ( no real need to refit it ) and fully stock it with 430 Olive Oil and sail to Madeira. A total of 5 gold bars, including selling the Tiara and the Hermes II, is enough to get started. By April of the next year, I already have half of my fleet of Full Rigged ships and enough gold to last the rest of the game. The Lubeck - Medeira route with a tax free permit works very well since you can sell in many ports along the way to earn top prices. Also, for Joao, the higher the rank, the higher the discount in prices in aligned ports. The gambling requires many saves and re-starts, but if it was a sure thing, they would not call it gambling.

Wu Di
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Post Re: Favorite Trade Route
on: October 3, 2012, 06:17
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Hello OldBob. That's a refreshingly new approach and I like the getting a bigger ship in Lisbon initially bit. I am less keen on Full rigs for trading personally due to the speed. Also I am always keen to only sell the gold at Lubeck not other ports if I can help as I can manipulate the economy by using small silver purchases of 50 or[b][/b] so lots in between huge sales of gold.

Gambling is time consuming but I am willing to try that for the best start. I hate it that even with 100 luck we still get lousy cards when gambling...

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